Give police powers to stop, search & seize certain fireworks

Give police powers to stop, search & seize certain fireworks

The Bill would give police more powers to stop and search people and seize CAT F2 and F3 fireworks. If a police constable had reasonable grounds for suspecting that a person has committed or is committing an offence, the constable mayβ€” (a) search that person without warrant, and detain the person for such time as is reasonably required to permit the search to be carried out, (b) stop and search a vehicle (and anything on or in it) without warrant, (c) seize and retain any item found in the course of a search which may be relevant to the suspected offence. If you agree with this proposal, rate it up (πŸ‘), if you disagree, rate it down (πŸ‘Ž). Please tell us why you agree or disagree using the comment boxes below. Image Credit: Douglas Sinclair, CC BY 2.0 <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0>, via Wikimedia Commons

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Powers to enforce the rules are clearly necessary.

although I do not believe the police force should be even more stretched than it is, there has to be some control from the more violent element within our society.

What a waste of resources. You'll miss some. Hassle some based on race or who 'fits' the profile. Fireworks are used by anyone and nearly everyone. Again, not really sensible or a good use of police time.

If they were totally banned this power would not be needed and would let them get on with more important things.

legal powers give the opportunity to remove fireworks however I'm concerned that the police have insufficient capacity to undertake such searches

Potentially, I support this, but only if great care is taken in how you define "reasonable grounds" (& how you train/enforce this within the police force), since stop & search powers are often abused, both intentionally & unconsciously by those with irrational bias against certain subgroups of the population.

If rules and controls are introduced they need to be enforced.

However, I assumed that on grounds of public safety and in relation to any perceived criminal activity, police already had these powers. Also, does Scotland have sufficient police numbers to be effective in this regard?

Providing it is effectively used and enforced, it can act to deter anti- social use.

Stop and search is always a controversial power. I am not sure it is relevant to fireworks.

it's not ideal as certain groups seem to be targetted on stop and search but if it is felt absolutely necessary then I am reluctantly in favour

The Bill should have some 'teeth'

if you remove the word 'fireworks' this is a just a 'stop and search' power. Similar orders have been poorly used and abused in the past.

absolutely! no point in making something illegal if the police can't enforce it

It is part of the enforcement of the new laws, and education of people using fireworks. It's being done to keep people safe.

we need to limit the use of fireworks as a way of maintaining the non human species that we haven't yet sent into extinction.

Gives the police the "teeth" they need to enforce the law.

should prevent dangerous misuse

It is not necessary to have this law if fireworks are not sold. That is best solution.

If there is legislation there must be a serious intent for reasonable and appropriate steps for enforcement. In practical terms this is likely to be through the police.

The answer is obvious.

If you have permission to have fireworks then there's nothing to worry about

Although I think that stop & search powers are mainly discriminated against some people I do agree with this one as the police must enforce this law

its about time animals and humans were protected from the damage these fireworks do. The noise from these fireworks is unbelievable. Animals have more sensitive hearing than humans so God knows what they feel when they hear them. I feel the sound goes right through me so I can't understand what they go through.

THE POLICE SHOULD BE ALLOWED THE POWER OF STOP AND SEARCH FOR ANY SUSPICION.

Michelle "It will allow police to react where they fireworks are being used dangerously." What is stopping the police reacting now? They already have the power to do so in the situation you describe.

Vikk "Again, fireworks in the wrong hands could be deadly" Yet there have been no deaths from these 'deadly' fireworks this century. Dogs, on the other hand, have killed dozens and maimed tens of thousands.

There is no need to be walking around with explosives in your pocket.

Lioness1forcreatures "we need to limit the use of fireworks as a way of maintaining the non human species that we haven't yet sent into extinction." Fireworks have been enjoyed by the public for over 100 years. Can you name one species of animal that has become extinct as a result?

Lizzie "the amount of kids hanging around parks at 2 -3 in the morning setting fireworks off is again out of control. If the police can stop that, then all the better." The police have all the powers needed to stop such anti social use already.

Anonymous User "Fireworks are weapons and should not be in the hands of the public" Dogs are 'deadly weapons' and injure and kill far more people and other animals than fireworks ever will.

AGREED

There are always people who will disregard laws or other peoples concerns

The police do not require additional stop and search powers. Experience and research shows which members/sectors of the public predominantly get targeted. Will members of the public crossing the border into Scotland be subject to random spot checks to ensure they are not carrying fireworks? The police should never be given unwarranted stop and search powers.

This is a significant offence with safety implications, as well as animal welfare implications

Disagree police have better things to do

Stop and search was not supported by those taking part but there was agreement that the police should be able to confiscate fireworks if any concerns have been raised. (Erskine Session 3rd March)

Enforce the law properly

If public purchase & use fireworks is banned (as it should be), they will be classed as an offensive weapon like a knife or a firearm. Police already rightly have powers to stop & search for such items.

The Police already have too many stop & search powers. I don't like fireworks but I dislike the slide towards a police state even more. I want to live in 2022 not 1984.

Its an over reach of the stop and search without warrent and will lead to abuse and discrimination along with profiling and look what a mess thats gotten us so far

Absolutely - the Police definitely need the power to do this.

The police have better things do do than this.

Isn't Current law Sufficient regarding this ? Current law is already NOT Enforced sufficiently.

This would give the police more opportunity to keep society safe.

It is too easy for people to claim infringement of civil liberties for carrying any item that can do harm to others whether intentional or otherwise. Fireworks are explosives and as such should have greater controls.

I welcome the idea and all fireworks should be seized and banned!

Police need to be able to enforce laws and if they can’t stop and search then people can symply ignore laws

Laws need to be enforced, and these seem reasonably methods provided the grounds are reasonable and police are not biased.

If it is illegal for people to possess fireworks without a licence, the existing police powers will be enough to handle this. I am concerned that if there is more individual discretion for police officers to stop and search people, there is more scope for discrimination.

The police should be better funded so that they have the resources to enforce existing laws better, because people are breaking current firework laws all the time and the police are seemingly doing nothing about it. More powers won't change this, only create more opportunity for abuse of power.

Public should not have them in the first place

it seems entirely sensible; if you have a law, it has to be enforced.

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